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Re: [Wg-ipv6-guide] (TOC 7.3) Closed Networks



Maruta san and all,

I have added some 'closed networks' examples here, but not too
confident this is the appropriate example. I appreciate your comments.

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7.3 Closed networks

APNIC will allocate global IPv6 address space to organization which
network is reachable or not reachable from global IPv6 Internet, if
its organization meets the conditions stated in current IPv6 policy,
[5.1.1 Initial allocation criteria], since it does not require global
route advertisement.

For example organizations below are eligible to obtain IPv6 addressess
despite these are closed networks, in case they meet other current 
IPv6 Policy.

 - An ISP which provides IPv6 services to other organization (company
   or individual) but its network is closed within its ISP or 
   restricted ISPs such as peering partners.

 - A large company who provides IPv6 connectivity to its group
   companies or subsidiaries and its network is closed within itself.
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Best regards,
Toshi
--
Toshiyuki Hosaka <hosaka@nic.ad.jp>
IP Department, Japan Network Information Center (JPNIC)
tel: +81-(0)3-5297-2311  fax: +81-(0)3-5297-2312




From: Toru Maruta <to-maruta@kddi.com>
Subject: Re: [Wg-ipv6-guide] (TOC 7.3) Closed Networks
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:26:06 +0900

> Thank you Geoff, I now understand that APNIC is saying the 
> network could be a closed network. I agree to Hosaka-san; I 
> think it will be helpful if we can add an example of this case.
> 
> regards, 
> 
> Toru Maruta
> 
> > The problem that the APNIC EC notice explicitly addresses is that the
> > existing IPv6 global policy does not say  to WHOM these addresses
> > are to be advertised. i.e. it is possible to meet these criteria AND
> > still operate a 'closed' network. i.e. an organization will qualify
> > if it is advertising routes within some context, and that context need
> > not be the V6 equivalent of the IP4 v4 Internet.
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> >     Geoff Huston
> > 
> > 
> > At 09:59 PM 18/12/2003, Toru Maruta wrote:
> > >Hi Hosaka-san and all,
> > >
> > >I think there will be a question on how one can meet the current
> > >  ipv6 policy 5.1.1(c), and be unconnected in the same time,
> > >because 5.1.1(c) says that the organization must have a plan to
> > >advertise its connectivity.
> > >
> > >Therefore I think it will be useful if we could clarify how to
> > >interpret this; will an organization qualify if he at least has
> > >a plan to connect globally even if it is not connected yet;  or
> > >will an organization qualify if it is advertising its
> > >connectivity to somewhere and it need not be the global ipv6.
> > >Personally I'm not quite sure of what the latter interpretation
> > >is suggesting.
> > >
> > >Toru Maruta
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > Just after I posted my draft on "Closed networks", I found the
> > > > following APNIC document had been published on its website.
> > > >
> > > > "APNIC allocation of global unicast IPv6 address space to
> > > > "unconnected" networks"
> > > >
> > > > http://www.apnic.net/docs/policy/ipv6-policy-clarification.html
> > > >
> > > > Please also refer to the document above, maybe my draft needs to be
> > > > reviewed in accordance with this document.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Toshi
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Toshiyuki Hosaka <hosaka@nic.ad.jp>
> > > > Subject: [Wg-ipv6-guide] (TOC 7.3) Closed Networks
> > > > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:18:32 +0900
> > > >
> > > > > Dear all,
> > > > >
> > > > > You may be aware that APNIC does allocate IPv6 addresses to 'closed'
> > > > > networks. Please refer to the following URL (global IPv6 ML archive).
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists/global-v6/archive/2003/09/msg00039.html
> > > > >
> > > > > So I drafted tentatively as below.
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > 7.3 Closed networks
> > > > >
> > > > > APNIC will allocate global IPv6 address space to organization which
> > > > > network is reachable or not reachable from global IPv6 Internet, if
> > > > > its organization meets the conditions stated in current IPv6 policy,
> > > > > [5.1.1 Initial allocation criteria].
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > If possible we may want to add some examples here but this should be
> > > > > by APNIC, I think.
> > > > >
> > > > > I appreciate your comments.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Toshi@JPNIC
> > > > >
> > > > >
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