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RE: [Wg-apnic-fees] APNIC membership fee structure proposal

Dear Akai san,

Thanks for your messages.


I think some members cannot discuss without following informations.

How much money does APNIC need to some new activities?
Please tell us the budget ahead for about two or three years.
After that, we can judge the validity of 10%-15% increase.
APNIC budget and activity planning is an annual process overseen by the EC, so this information is not yet available. In any case the revision of the fee structure will take some time to implement (no earlier than 2008) and the benefit of any revenue increases will then not be fully felt for one year, that is, until 2009. Between now and then many factors will influence activities and priorities, not least the next APNIC member survey which will be launched soon.
Since APNIC's membership fee structure was established, APNIC expenditure has been limited by available funds, with EC oversight of the budget and capital reserve (which must be maintained at the level of 1 year's operating expenses). While there has been no increase in fee structure levels during this time, and there has been no adjustment for inflation, activities have increased through economies of scale, and a range of efficiencies.
For the past 4 years, APNIC has operated on a balanced budget which has produced little or no surplus. However with increasing operational costs this situation is beginning to limit our flexibility and ability to respond to new demands and circumstances. Among these in recent years has been the advent of WSIS and the need for greatly increased international liaison and communications activities. In future we expect substantial costs associated with the certification of Internet resources, and with process engineering, security and quality assurance.
As Director General I am confident that we can meet forseeable future needs on the basis of the proposed adjustment in fee levels, and an assumption of ongoing growth in APNIC's membership. 

Regards,

Paul Wilson.


--On Wednesday, 16 August 2006 7:51 PM +0900 makai@bb.softbank.co.jp wrote:


Dear Paul,

I think some members cannot discuss without following informations.

How much money does APNIC need to some new activities?
Please tell us the budget ahead for about two or three years.
After that, we can judge the validity of 10%-15% increase.


I believe that proposal make mention of increasing revenue and correcting
fairness.

If APNIC cannot show grounds concerning revenue growth,
it is necessary to change proposal that focus correcting fairness.

If APNIC focus correcting fairness,
APNIC will change proposal that the annual membership fee decrease 10-15%
across the board. How do the APNIC staffs think?

Best regards,
--
akai


-----Original Message-----
From: wg-apnic-fees-bounces@apnic.net
[mailto:wg-apnic-fees-bounces@apnic.net] On Behalf Of
makai@bb.softbank.co.jp
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:47 PM
To: wg-apnic-fees@apnic.net
Subject: RE: [Wg-apnic-fees] APNIC membership fee structure proposal

Hi Paul and Save,

Thank you for sharing proposal.

I understood the proposal as below...

A. Motivation
  1.APNIC needs more Revenue.
  2.Correction of fairness.
    -Current fee structure is very old-

B.This proposal brings
  1.Increasing 10-15% revenue for APNIC.
  2.Correcting fairness.

> My opinion + My Questions.
I will support to correcting fairness.
But we do not know, how much money APNIC needs to some new activities.
Please tell us the budget ahead for about two or three years.
After that, we can judge the validity of 10%-15% increase.

I have one more question.
360 dollars payment equal a voting entitlements. Is it correct ?

regards,
--
akai

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wg-apnic-fees-bounces@apnic.net
> [mailto:wg-apnic-fees-bounces@apnic.net] On Behalf Of Save Vocea
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:10 AM
> To: wg-apnic-fees@apnic.net
> Subject: [Wg-apnic-fees] APNIC membership fee structure proposal
>
> Dear APNIC Member,
>
> The attached paper introduces a proposed new membership fee
> structure
> for APNIC.
> The proposed structure includes fees for regular APNIC members and
> for NIR members,
> and removes the existing "per address" fee for allocations to NIRs.
>
> It should be considered as a "candidate" structure, presented for
> discussion rather
> than a final decision at APNIC 22.
>
> The proposed date for implementation of a new structure is
1 January
> 2008.
>
> Further discussions will be made during the APNIC 22 member meeting.
> Comments or clarifications sought in this list is welcomed.
>
> Regards,
> ______________________________________________________________
> _________
> Savenaca Vocea                          email:
> save@apnic.net
> Policy Development Manager, APNIC       sip:
> save@voip.apnic.net
> http://www.apnic.net                    phone:          +61 7
> 3858 3100
> ______________________________________________________________
> _________
> Welcome to APNIC 22!
> Kaohsiung, Taiwan, 4-8 September 2006
> http://www.apnic.net/meetings
>
>
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Paul Wilson                                 email:     pwilson@apnic.net
Director General, APNIC                     sip:    apnic@voip.apnic.net
http://www.apnic.net                        phone:       +61 7 3858 3100
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