[Wg-apnic-fees] RE: Proposal for APNIC annual service fee

["Steve Monkhouse" <steve.monkhouse@ethertech.com.au>]

 As a 'new' non-member I am very interested in this proposal.
 
 I also know a lot of people with Aunic IP ranges pre-apnic.
 
 I have no problem with the $50 fee to maintain the apnic account,  
 however my problem lies as follows : 

* Item 4 - "Revocation of resources for non-payment of service fees
 
    - APNIC will revoke and reclaim resources from non-member account
      holders who do not pay their annual service fees by the due  
 date. " etc etc

 
THIS IS CRAP. You CANNOT blackmail people to paying you to be a  
member or non-member for IP resources we've had well before apnic was even
an idea, on the threat of revoking legitimate resources.
 
If payment is not received as per the current arrangement, then the
maintainer of the IP ranges should return to APNIC.. But for most  
of us the only reason we've had to become a member is to make a single
change to a reverse lookup address. And we'll probably never use it ever
again.   Why should we be paying for something that we'll never need ?
 
Maybe apnic should simply set a standard pre-paid fee for service  
in place. Eg -
 - change a resource rev dns record : $50
 - change a comment field : $50 etc etc
 
 Plus if a fee for service method was introduced it would mean more revenue

 when changes need to be made anyway, and reduce load on membership  
 maintenance / support questions etc etc.
 
I was told unequivically that even if I didn?t renew my non-member  
agreement at the end of 12 months, all that would happen would be the
maintainer objects would return to be apnic again, and I'd have to go
through  the entire war-and-peace paperwork effort again to make another
change, NOT that my resources would be pulled for non-payment.. 


 Steve Monkhouse
 
 Network Manager
 Network Support Team
 EtherTech Computer Services
 Ph +61-3-8695-0055
 Fx +61-3-8695-0056
 www.ethertech.com.au
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
  From: save@apnic.net [mailto:save@apnic.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:36 PM
  To: steve.monkhouse@ethertech.com.au
  Subject: Proposal for APNIC annual service fee
  
  
  Dear members of the APNIC community
  
  The proposal "Proposal for APNIC annual service fee" is being sent
  to this list for comment. It will be presented at the APNIC
  Member Meeting at APNIC 22 in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, 4-8 September 2006.
  You are invited to review and comment on the proposal on this
  mailing list before the meeting.
  
  The proposal's history can be found at:
  
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  http://www.apnic.net/docs/policy/proposals/prop-040-v001.html
  
  Regards
  
  ______________________________________________________________
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  Savenaca Vocea                          email: Â
   Â  Â  Â  Â  save@apnic.net Policy Development Manager, APNIC
  Â  Â  Â  sip:Â  Â  Â  Â  save@voip.apnic.net
  http://www.apnic.netÂ;  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  phone:Â  Â
  Â  Â  Â  +61 7 3858 3100
  ______________________________________________________________
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  Welcome to APNIC 22!
  Kaohsiung, Taiwan, 4-8 September 2006 Â  Â
  http://www.apnic.net/meetings
  
 

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Savenaca Vocea                          email:           save@apnic.net
Policy Development Manager, APNIC       sip:        save@voip.apnic.net
http://www.apnic.net                    phone:          +61 7 3858 3100
_______________________________________________________________________
Welcome to APNIC 22!
Kaohsiung, Taiwan, 4-8 September 2006     http://www.apnic.net/meetings