Re: [sig-policy] Final call for comments: [prop-028-v001] "AbolishingIPv6 per address fee for NIRs"

[MAEMURA Akinori <maem@maem.org>]

I do agree NIR system might be more complex than not having
that.  

However it is really disappointing for me to hear you say
like that multiple lauguage and culutural system is too 
complicated and it should be abolished.  Thus it sounds
as a joke no longer because NIRs have made a tremendous 
effort for years to include non-native in-country stakeholders 
into APNIC's policy process. 


That was a small proposal to propose abolish remaining 10%
of IPv6 per address fee, where IPv6 PAF contributes 1% of 
APNIC's revenue.  NIRs said "to simplify" after they know
the size of impact.  Moreover it is for interim solution
until we have more appropriate NIR fee structure - NIRs think
current PAF structure will never fit for larger allocations.



Anyway, we would be really happy to have on-line discussion 
in order to have the same picture of this issue.  

Keep on discussing.


Regards,
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MAEMURA Akinori                Director, JPNIC IP Department
                              maem@maem.org , maem@nic.ad.jp




In message <17203.19267.260928.988929@roam.psg.com>
   "Re: [sig-policy] Final call for comments: [prop-028-v001] "AbolishingIPv6 per address fee for NIRs""
   "Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>" wrote:

| i too have problems with this proposal, as i hinted at the
| meeting.
| 
| if the fee system is too complex, the nir system adds far more
| complexity to apnic process, as we can see by the process of
| this very proposal.  if we are to abolish complexity, clearly
| the nir system is the first thing to go. :-)/2
| 
| but it is certainly amusing that a stepped fee with a minimum
| is too complex.  shall we put in an hd ratio instead? :-)
| 
| more appropriately, i suggest that, at the perth meeting, the
| lirs have a meeting where they can abolish fees for lirs.
| 
| randy
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