Re: [sig-policy] Forwarded reply from Gordon Bader

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Tim and all,

  Well Tim, it has already been shown with two examples on this very
forum that the current policy isn't very effective at all..  So I have to
wonder how you arrived at that evaluation?

Tim Jones wrote:

> Hi Gordon,
>
> While APNIC doesn't maintain any definitive data in regards to this procedure, we believe that it is effective.
>
> Of course some ISPs act faster than others, but in at least 75-80% of cases the
> announcement is removed from BGP within a couple of weeks.
>
> If the initial email is ignored, we will resend, additionally emailing ASNs
> which are providing transit.
>
> In regards to the practices of the other RIRs, it would be inappropriate for me to comment on another organisation's internal procedures. However I notice that Leo has already answered for the RIPE NCC.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim.
>
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> On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, GB wrote:
>
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> >     How effective has this notification process been?  Have they been
> > ignored?
> > If they were ignored what process is then followed?  How effective do
> > you feel the
> > "bogon" lists monitoring has been.  Do other RIRs have similar notification
> > procedures?  How effective have they been?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gordon
> >
> > Tim Jones wrote:
> >
> > >Dear Gordon and others,
> > >
> > >You may be interested to know that APNIC does have an internal procedure whereby "bogon" lists are periodically monitored.
> > >
> > >When an instance of APNIC unallocated address space being announced is detected, a "cease and desist" order as you put it, is sent to the announcing ASN, and also upstreams providing transit.
> > >
> > >As well as requesting that the announcements cease immediately, these notices point out that this address space may be allocated to a third party at any time with obvious consequences for routing.
> > >
> > >This procedure is handled by APNIC hostmasters, who can be contacted at helpdesk@apnic.net if you have any queries regarding this procedure.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Tim.
> > >
> > >
> >
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