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Re: [sig-nir] Re: [sig-policy] Final call for comments:[prop-031-v002] "Proposal to amend APNIC IPv6 assignment andutilisation requirement policy"



Dear Geoff and Randy,

Thank you very much for your reply.

I agree with Kenny. At this stage, we just focus on the HD ratio amendment. I think IPv6 fee schedule or financial issue could be postponed to next meeting or forum discussion.

Best Regards,

David Chen


Kenny Huang wrote:

Dear Geoff and Randy:

The current practice in Policy SIG is,  normally fee or financial issue was
not addressed, although the boundary of policy interests is not clearly defined. However,
it is worthy to
have input from the community to assess the appropriateness of having
proposal with
finanacial implication.


Best Regards


Kenny Huang
huangk@alum.sinica.edu




-----Original Message-----
From: sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net
[mailto:sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of Geoff Huston
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:51 AM
To: Randy Bush
Cc: sig-nir@apnic.net; sig-policy@apnic.net
Subject: Re: [sig-nir] Re: [sig-policy] Final call for
comments:[prop-031-v002] "Proposal to amend APNIC IPv6 assignment
andutilisation requirement policy"

I agree with Randy here, and as co-author of the original APNIC proposal,
here's some initial personal thoughts on this topic:

It would make sense to me that when this proposal returns to APNIC in
February that it has an associated proposal relating to membership fees. The
most direct way to do this is to attempt to preserve two components of the
current fee structure, namely that:

1. That the minimum IPv6 allocation would have the same membership fee
    as it has at present

and

2. That for holding above the minimum allocation unit, that same number of
'useable' end hosts (i.e. application of the 0.94 HD ratio to the total
holding) attract
the same fee as the same number of useable end hosts would under the current
0.8 HD ratio

Does this appear to be a useful / fair / reasonable / rational starting
point for consideration?


regards,

    Geoff




At 09:02 AM 29/09/2005, Randy Bush wrote:
Another interpretation is that nothing has changed in the APNIC
IPv6 fee structure, and that an explicit proposal would need to be made to propose aligning the IPv6 fee structure with the IPv6 allocation policy in the event that APNIC formally adopts this proposed IPv6 allocation policy
perhaps, analogous to some folk's suggestions in the nir paf discussion, the on-going financial fix could be part of this proposal before it is finalized?

[ american (and general english?) idiom time again: what's
 good for the goose is good for the gander ]

randy


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