Re: [GLOBAL-V6]IPv6 Policy Proposal for LACNIC Region

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Tim and all,

  I have NOT said v6 has NOT been in PART a global effort.  It
certainly has.  However I am saying that the vast majority of the
funding for the DEVELOPMENT or IPv6 was born by US
Tax Payers...  And as such they have a right via their tax
dollors to participate as a member of any RIR that is making
any policy on an equal level or basis without additional financial
incumbency, regarding the use or allocation of IPv5.

  I, and our members can fully understand a desire by
SIG's not wanting already fully paid citizens having such
participation.

Tim Chown wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 09:11:31PM -0800, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> >   Yes Japan and Taiwan have put some funding in the marketing side of things
> > for v6 but none that I am aware of for v6 development.
>
> Overall, there's quite a split, as Jordi says it's been a global effort.
>
> In Japan there has been the KAME IPv6 stack and the TAHI conformance suite
> as well-known v6 development examples.
>
> I think most people would say that Japan has been at the forefront of IPv6
> development work.   The US is catching on fast, especially after the DoD
> announcement :)
>
> That said, the first stack I think came from Francis Dupont's group in France,
> at one of the first three 6bone nodes (which were between France, Denmark
> and Japan, not in the US at that stage - March 1996).
>
> EU funding (matching industry contributions) has run from 1999 onwards for
> IPv6 research and development.  As Jordi says, it depends what you count,
> but 90M Euros is one reasonable estimate.   It is a lot more if you were to
> include research network funding such as GEANT, but IPv6 is one small part of
> GEANT.   6NET and Euro6IX receive around 10M Euros each over a 3 year period.
>
> >   And most of those funds for development of v6 came from US Tax dollars
> > through the now depleted Infrastructure fund from DOC/NTIA.
>
> Do you have a web link to this information?   What were the projects this
> work was done under?   Google doesn't throw anything up.
>
> Most standardisation is done under the IETF.
>
> Commercial development work has been split between the regions, though of
> late focused on bigger US companies like Cisco (who are coordinators of
> the 6NET project btw) and Juniper.   Early router work was done in Europe
> (Telebit and 6WIND - not high end routers though!) and Japan.
>
> Open source development work is done by individuals largely, but includes
> Japanese funded work on KAME for example.   OS support is mainly US (Sun,
> MS, etc) but has only really become commercially supported in the last
> 2-3 years.
>
> What I'm not familiar with is US funding outside the commercial companies
> for R&D and deployment trials etc.  Again, I'd be very interested in online
> pointers.
>
> BTW I looked for INEGroup on Google, and can't find a website - could you
> post the URL for this organisation as I'd like to find out more.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim

Regards,

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