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Re: [GLOBAL-V6]IPv6 Policy Proposal for LACNIC Region
Hi Izumi, Kosuke,
> Could I confirm once again that this was the concious
> decision(acknowledgement) made by all RIRs, having considered its
> implications?
I think German has replied to this question and I think the reply
from the APNIC Secretariat will be similar.
This was *not* part of a concious decision or acknowledgement made
by all the RIRs. The decision flowed from the LACNIC community
proposing and accepting the proposal as meeting a 'need' in their
region.
It is useful to observe that this policy is globally co-ordinated
rather than a global policy: there were never any agreements by
any RIR staff that there would be a single global policy. Actually
APNIC EC has taken a decision to interpret one aspect of the policy
in a way that differs from the other regions. See:
http://www.apnic.net/docs/policy/ipv6-policy-clarification.html
I also see this and the LACNIC change as part of the normal globally
co-ordinated policy development processes. My understanding is that
the reason that LACNIC announced their consensus on the global-v6 policy
discussion list, was in order to collect feedback from the other
regions, and if necessary to re-asses the consensus decision.
In other words, this was an attempt to look at the global context
and to co-ordinate.
Also please feel welcome to bring the proposed change, and this
discussion to the agenda of the Policy SIG at the forthcoming
APNIC Open Policy Meeting.
Best wishes,
Anne
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> From: Kosuke Ito <kosuke@bugest.net>
> Subject: Re: [GLOBAL-V6]IPv6 Policy Proposal for LACNIC Region
> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:08:36 +0900
>
> >
> > Hi, German and all
> >
> > I do understand that LACNIC community like to have their
> > own "bootstrap" condition for deploying IPv6 in LACNIC
> > region, but I do NOT like to have it with an open jaw
> > condition, anyway.
> >
> > And, I would like to know other RIRs people's view on
> > this matter, and how LACNIC consider the possible side
> > effect to the global community once the LACNIC special
> > condition is implemented.
> > I believe that RIRs/NIRs community should have a single
> > view (even though each region has a different need) on
> > the global coordinated policy like the IPv6 policy which
> > was built up on the large amount of efforts balancing many
> > factors from the global point of view, since the IP address
> > space is a global resourse shared accross the globe.
> > And RIRs/NIRs, I personally believe, should set a allowance
> > of changing the global policy to accomodate a local need.
> > When it needs to change (locally), possible effects after
> > the change should be discussed from the global resourse
> > management point of view at the same time.
> >
> > I would not like to see avalanche multiplication on relaxing
> > the allocation conditions initiating from LACNIC to all other
> > regions... This is my worry.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kosuke
> >
> >
> > Jeff Williams wrote:
> > > German and all,
> > >
> > > I wonder when if ever LACNIC will be seeking advisory input from
> > > the stakeholders/users in their region? I also wonder if LACNIC
> > > does seek such input, that the desires and requirements of those
> > > participating stakeholders/users will be adheared to in a responsible
> > > and direct way?
> > >
> > > German Valdez wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hi Izumi
> > >>
> > >>sorry for delay
> > >>
> > >>It is intention of the RIR to work in common policies, like the IPv6
> > one,
> > >>when this is possible.
> > >>
> > >>Nevertheless, this IPv6 policy proposal is the result of a regional
> > need.
> > >>So far has accomplished all the step of our Policy Development Process.
> > >>
> > >>Even though common policies may work well they are not bindig for the
> > RIR.
> > >>
> > >>We are aware that this proposal is broken a common policy. For this
> > reason
> > >>we are sharing this criteria with the Global IPv6 community.
> > >>
> > >>This 45 days period of comment (which ends at january 23rd) is not
> > part of
> > >>the policy development process, however is a faculty of LACNIC's
> > Board to
> > >>do this. The reason was to recieve more comments from the global
> > community
> > >>before the Board made a decision.
> > >>
> > >>Regards
> > >>
> > >>German Valdez
> > >>Policy Liaison
> > >>LACNIC
> > >>
> > >>At 12:07 AM 1/7/2004, Izumi Okutani wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>It had been my understanding that IPv6 policy would be co-ordinated
> > >>>among the RIRs, but this seems to imply a regional policy like IPv4.
> > >>>
> > >>>That's also one method of the policy process that's proved to work
> > >>>well, but it should at least be a concious decision by the RIRs(or its
> > >>>communities).
> > >>>
> > >>>Could someone from the RIRs share the position about this?
> > >>>
> > >>>Izumi
> > >>>JPNIC
> > >>>
> > >>>From: German Valdez <german@lacnic.net>
> > >>>Subject: [GLOBAL-V6]IPv6 Policy Proposal for LACNIC Region
> > >>>Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:16:29 -0300
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>FYI LACNIC is calling for last comments for new policies to be applied
> > >>>
> > >>>next
> > >>>
> > >>>>year. One of this policies is a new criteria for IPv6 Initial
> > allocation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>This proposal is the result of the analysis of the LACNIC IPv6 WG
> > and the
> > >>>>discussion held during our Open Policy Forum in The Havana, Cuba
> > >>>>
> > >>>>You can review this proposal at http://lacnic.net/en/last-call.html
> > >>>>
> > >>>>On december 9th we started a 45 days period for comments for these
> > >>>>policies, including the IPv6 one. Comments will be received
> > through our
> > >>>>policy public list politicas@lacnic.net, subscription to this list
> > is open
> > >>>>at http://lacnic.net/en/lists.html. Any comments are welcomed.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Regards
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>German Valdez
> > >>>>Policy Liaison
> > >>>>LACNIC
> > >>>>
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