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RE: [GLOBAL-V6] Comments on AP Consensus
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Michel Py wrote:
> > Carlos Friacas wrote:
> > About the "large enterprises", well, its a very simple ideia,
> > but why not creating a category similar to the LIR category,
> > but with the restriction of not being allowed to assign to
> > third-party (that would be a LIR!) This would generate also
> > a discussion on the size of allocation for this LER (Large
> > Enterprise Registry), but this would be a minor problem, no?
>
> As I pointed on some IETF lists, I find the LIR definition somehow inconsistent with RIR
> and NIR.
> If one was to follow the same logic, RIR, NIR and LIR would be similar (RIR assigns to
> NIR and LIR, NIR assigns to LIR) except for their scope:
>
> - RIR : ~continent.
LACNIC is on the good path, i hear... AFRINIC will also be one day,
hopefully. When it happens, we can drop the "~" :-)
> - NIR : nation.
I really dont have this notion, and its the first time i hear about NIRs.
I guess the LIR i manage some time ago was a kind of NIR, but the exact
definition was: last-resort internet registry.
The special way of not having NIRs is that governments are not involved in
address assignments... this is different than DNS ccTLD delegations, and
in some ways is seen as a *great* advantage!
> - LIR : city / metropolitan area.
Local... any place, any country.
> Indeed, the logical definition for a LIR should be something like
> "A provider-independent organization that assigns PI addresses to
> end-user sites". It does not mean that the actual function could not be
> performed by an ISP (as mentioned in 6.1.8 of [MHAP]), but the ISP
> should then be clearly wearing two different hats. I am not convinced
> that making an ISP a registry is a good idea in the sense that most
> people would want a registry to be independent from the operators.
In Europe, as of my knowledge LIRs only assing PA space and the RIR
(RIPE/NCC) is the only entity to assign PI space?.
> The LIR could also be the city authority.
This means heavy loads of burocracy.
City authorities dont (need to) know BGP...
> I brought this issue regarding the dissapearance of "TLA". It's a matter of semantics,
> but I think that you should not call an operator or ISP a "registry".
Im afraid this is the current model in Europe... and it seems it has been
working fine.
> Michel.
>
./Carlos
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