Válasz: Re: Válasz: [GLOBAL-V6] RE: How to reduce the junk applications?

[turchanyi.geza@ln.matav.hu]

Denesh,

The most probably you know the answers ;-)

1, We applied restrictions on IPv4 LIRs. This is "the slow start mechanism".

Restrictions are not for themself. The goal of hardening the life of a new LIR
was just to filter off a half million students, that might want to create a LIR,
just to decorate their  business card.

There are many-many small business unit that may pay the fees to become a
registry, however, not able to provide a service that realy need a LIR.

Too many LIR is against routability. I would not recommend an address allocation
strategy that kills the network.

Today some ISPs filters IPv4 /24 announcements - if we are not careful with
IPv6 LIRs, we will end up of filtering of the minimum allocation to a LIR.

Therefore I recommend to think about the network as a whole. I like the liberty
however I do not like the mess.

2, You might heard about big research initiatives for the introduction of IPv6
service. A good example is 6net.

6NET will have initially its own infrastructure, and there is a good reason
behind: it would be too risky to use a production network.

This is not the eventual address allocation restriction that will stop new
IPv6-only companies to pop up, but the basic limitations of the technology and
the installed services.

Applying restrictions in the transition period is better than creating a mess.

Best,
     Geza




Denesh Bhabuta <denesh@cyberstrider.net> dátum: 2002.02.08 14:23:35

Kérem, válaszoljon Címzett Denesh Bhabuta <denesh@cyberstrider.net>

Címzett:       Turchányi Géza/PKI/HTC2@HTC2
Másolat:       "Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" <woeber@cc.univie.ac.at>,
      global-v6@lists.apnic.net, ipv6-wg@ripe.net
Tárgy:         Re: Válasz: [GLOBAL-V6] RE: How to reduce the junk applications?



On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 02:17:29PM +0100, turchanyi.geza@ln.matav.hu
(turchanyi.geza@ln.matav.hu) wrote: Re: Válasz: [GLOBAL-V6] RE: How to reduce
the junk applications?
> 1, I do not think that it is possible to create a brand new ISP without IPv4
> experience, therefore my suggestion is not a restriction for a real ISP, just
> for the virtual ones.

I disagree on two points

Firstly, what is an ISP (real or virtual) - define one.

Secondly, IPv4 experience? What experience? registry experience,
transport experience, network harware experience? what about those
'new' ISPs that have employed the services of, or even recruited, a
person who had 10 years IPv4 experience. Company is new.. but the
experience is old.. who are we to say that an ISP is experienced or
not?

--
Denesh Bhabuta
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